Steve Winstead, Mike's guitar technician, shared his techie wisdom with TPATH fans on the official Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' BBS. Below are a selection of posts from 2001-2.
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crazyhorse
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Findlay,Ohio
Posts: 194
Thanks Chinner
I totally forgot about canned air. I will give that a try and see about the cleaners you suggested. I am hoping I do not have to replace any of the pots...it's an older board and not sure I wanna mess with it. Thanks again.
06-25-2001 03:55 PM
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HrtbrkrGal
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: VA
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My teenage son would like to know what kind/brand of slide Mike uses. When he went to purchase one, there were quite a number to choose from.
You mentioned there might be some changes in the setlist. I hope they don't drop Green Onions or Refugee (at least not at the DC show). I know this isn't technical--sorry.
Thanks,
Deb
06-25-2001 03:06 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
Posts: 10
Hrtbrkrgrl,
MC use's a Jim Dunlop #215 (big thick glass one).......your "hope's" and dreams have been duly noted and will be filed accordingly!! ...........LOL
06-25-2001 05:48 PM
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Trembling-Blender
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whoo! I made it!
after a long 11 hr flight from Glasgow, I finally made it to CA! I brought my SG with me (with one of those fender mini twin amps that are SO cool) and i was worrying about it the whole way but it came through fine. The only thing that was wrong was that the case was missing one of the metal protection corners.
Anyway, just thought I'd say I'm gonna go to a flea market on saturday in the hope of finding a gem of a guitar (i can dream lol!), and while I'm out here (seeing as everything is so cheap) I'm seriously thinking about getting one of those ebows... speak to ya all later!
06-25-2001 07:51 PM
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JerryTalton
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Virginia
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Okay, another question...
Chinner, let me solicit your personal opinion here, if you don't mind. Actually, can that, I'm going to solicit it whether you mind or not.
I'm looking to add a second electric to my guitar collection. I've already got a '52 Telecaster reissue, but I'd like something with a little more growl and edge. I most definitely do NOT want to go out and get a strat, and I've sort of figured that I'm not going to buy a Les Paul until I can afford one of the '59 flametop reissues (like, after I've finished with this damn college thing). I'm seriously thinking about a Firebird V—I played one in a store last week and really liked it, but I'd like to hear your suggestions. What are you personal favorites in the world of electric guitars? Anything from the non-standard brands and/or models? I know a lot of this amounts to personal preference, but I figure it can't hurt to ask. I'm looking for something in the not-too-totally-f*****g-outrageous price range.
Thanks a bunch.
06-26-2001 03:16 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
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Jerry,
I'm partial to the P-90, especially the Les Paul Jr. I think it is right in between a humbucker and a single coil strat/tele sound that breaks up nicely. If I'm not mistaken I think even the vintage 50's ones aren't that unreasonable either......
06-26-2001 06:59 PM
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angeldream
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Mt. Pine, AR
Posts: 33
Hey Chinner......
Hi, I'm AngelDream...glad to meet ya! Just wanted to tell ya that L,RED and I will be together in Nashville and I'll make sure she doesn't forget the binos. I'm bringing mine 'cuz our seats are SO CLOSE, I wanna see the 'peach fuzz' on Tom's and the other Heartbreakers faces!!!
Seriously, tho, I have a question. I have an Ibanez 6-string acoustic where I had the strings changed to lighter ones because the ones that came with it hurt my fingers (I'm just a beginner)...... then one day I was tuning it and broke the 4th string.....but my question is: what size strings do Tom and the guys use, especially on their acoustic guitars? When I changed the strings I thought it would change the sound, but I noticed it didn't change it much, which made me very happy!
AngelDream
07-03-2001 01:28 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
Posts: 36
response L,RED,
Yes, that would be nice. Hope I'm not too busy.....
Angel,
It really depends on the guitar, but I think for the most part it is a light gauge (.012-.049 or 52). Be careful not to make too much of a change in gauge or you may warp the neck.....
07-03-2001 06:00 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
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Angel,
One more thing....the reason your fingers hurt is because the tips are developing calicus (spelling??...LOL) called pads, that's a good thing because it make's the note ring better. Once you develope those pads the pain will go away.....
07-03-2001 07:29 PM
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MC Guitar questions by biancocat
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Hello Mr. Chinner S.W
Thanks for taking time to participate with the bands fan bass I am so glad to finally found someone who actual knows the answer to these questions.
1) On Mike's black & gold Rick 350 with 2 pickup's (humbucker in the bridge and a Toaster in the neck) I thought I
read that this guitar has a wider neck if so what would it be?
2) on Mike's --- Farrington double neck I noticed he changed all the pickups to Seymore Duncan's I would like to know which one goes where or are they all the same ?
(This is my guess on location if he has one of each)
(12 string neck ) Vintage Mini Humbucker Yes 6.54k 7.57k Alnico 5 bar 7.0khz 6.0khz Clean, low output.
(12 string bridge )Custom Mini Humbucker Yes 8.52k 16.41k Ceramic bar 9.0khz 4.0khz Bright, high output punch.
(6 six string bridge) Seymourized Mini Humbucker Yes 6.29k 11.6k Alnico 5 bar 7.0khz 4.8khz High output, smooth and fat.
I am also curios about the neck selector switch is it out of an SG double neck guitar?
And any other info would be greatly appreciated . Fret Size ,overall weight, neck angle, neck profiles ect
The bridges are they Leo Quans Bad ass model that you just double cut the saddles on?
Thanks You Very Much , Joe
ps this is my first post i hjope it right
07-11-2001 06:23 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
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bianocat,
Sorry for the delay in answering, but I couldn't get online long in Detroit. I talked to MC and the neck on that black Rick is a bit wider like a Martin width. It also has a flatter radius, even more than a Les Paul. As far as the doubleneck as I recall (it's been about ten years) there was a P-90 on the six string and a Rick pickup in the bridge of the 12 (can't remember what was in the neck). The pickup's were changed one at a time to the Seymore's......to the best of my knowledge they are all the same. The neck selector is a three way toggle....there are no pickup selector's or tone controls only volume......The bridge for the 12 is a badass (so's the 6) that has extra hole's drilled out for the 12 strings and double cut bridge pieces. As far as frets...they appear to be a Les Paul type....medium width and height......
07-13-2001 08:54 AM
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Travvis
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Around the corner and down the block
Posts: 25
Chinner,
I know you mentioned that the guitar Mike had built by Bernie Hamburger has 4 volume and no tone controls. Now I find out that his double neck has no tone controls. I know some people just set the tone on the amp and never touch the tone control on the guitar. I also know you can get different tones by adjusting the volume of the pick ups.
I guess my question is why Mike didn't want tone controls on these guitars.
07-14-2001 08:31 AM
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biancocat
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Thanks
Thanks Mr. Chinner
I am having problems with this thing letting me on some time ok sometimes no way I don't no /anyway thanks j
07-15-2001 06:24 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
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bianocat,
After further thought I'm even more convinced they are the same pickup's on the double neck because of the way they blend together......they must be the same impedance.....
Travis,
I'm sure MC didn't want tone controls for the reason you stated.....they almost always stay on ten anyway....the hamburguitar is a bit tricky because the impedance is different on different pickup's......
07-15-2001 07:52 PM
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biancocat
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guitar talk
Hello Mr Chinner:
I also noticed that it's strung like a conventional 12 string and not like a Rickenbacker-- I find this a bit weird for someone with such a liking for Rick's.
In the Farrington book. The point at which the 12-string neck fit's into the body looks a bit sloppy Is that the case? I remember reading that it was built in a hurry for the tour in 95.
Please take a look at my page This is what I am working on. I hope to have it done sooon.
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Thanks Joe
07-15-2001 11:58 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Location: Glendale, CA
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bianocat,
First off, could you please drop the Mr. (sounds like a Jay Leno alias.....LOL). If you're referring to the larger gauge on top and the octave on the bottom....all MC's 12 string's are like that including the Rick's....not sure why...personal prefference I guess......as far as the Ferrington being sloppy....I do remember when I changed the pickup's having to wedge in foam to fill in the slot's due to the way the pickup cavities were routed.....and the screw holes on the 6 string had cracks...but that's all been fixed by Toru......hope that helps...
07-16-2001 12:58 PM
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biancocat
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Registered: Jul 2001
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Hello Chinner
First off another great show. Looking forward to the next one now only to get Roger and Tom to tour again ;^} anyway here are a few more questions for yea.
What model Rick was MC playing? I think he only used it one time (black with white pickguards possibly a 350/v63?
What does MC have on the floor for pedals these days?
Does MC have any boutique type guitars like Ton Anderson, Grosh, Gibson Historic or Fender Custom shop stuff? (Or does he not get into this stuff)
Amp's wise
What type of tube's do you use in MC AC30TB?
I also have a 65 ac30tb and would like to set it up the same.
I know there is not much in the way of control knob options, but where do set his at to enable you to dial in a tone?
Do you have a schematic for his complete setup if not what are you using to split the signal?
I remember reading his fawn ac30tb is a 63 what is the other year amp he runs with that or does the 63 stay at home and uses a completely different set?
What is up with the Line 6 amps is this some kind of joke? I remember MC saying he is a self confessed analog fiend?
What type of wireless system does MC use the ¼" jack looked huge?
Well thanks a bunch I have many questions to ask and am trying not to over load you.
May all your strings be in tune. J
Ps. What was the big wooded instrument or board with a harp carved into it stage left I believe?
07-25-2001 06:30 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
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bianocat,
The Rick is what we call a "mystery rick"....we don't know, neither does Rickenbacker....LOL (it appear's to have been red at one time and painted). MC uses new old stock 6BQ5 (EL84) RCA or Sylvania...I think.....the setting's from the front top looking down are V-3:00 or 4:00, T-9:00, B-9:00, C-11:00.....the Line6 stuff is for real, he really like's them...the siginal goes into a Line6 delay into a Camel Toe distortion back to the Line6 combo (pedal board, has delay, leslie, distortion, wah-wah, etc...) then I take the send out to give the AC30 wet siginal...really simple! There were no wireless used by MC, the large plug is a silent plug (no pop...switchcraft #181 or 182 can't remember). His AC30 is a 67 or 68 top boost in a 63 cabinet that has been modified....
07-25-2001 07:54 AM
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Travvis
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Around the corner and down the block
Posts: 25
Surf guitars and the such...
Chinner,
The two guitars most closely associated with Surf Guitar are the Jazzmaster and Jaguar (sorry Dick Dale, but strats just don't qualify. LOL.)
Anyway the Jag has a sort of Gibson scale at 24" (Les Pauls are 24 3/4") and the Jazzmaster has a Strat / Tele scale at 25 1/2".
Is there a reason that Mike seems to prefer Jaguars? I have read a couple of articles and it sounds like he has a few Jags. I've never seen him use a Jazzmaster.
While both guitars have the same shape, the pickups look different and the Jazzmaster doesn't have the 3 extra switches. For some reason I've always dug the Jazzmaster a little more.
Thanks,
Travvis
07-26-2001 07:27 PM
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HeartbreakerGal
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: VA
Posts: 17
Question
On my son's not so expensive Fender guitar, he has taken the tremolo bar off and on many times. Now it will not fit securely or stay in the guitar. Can this be fixed or will it cost more than the guitar is worth?
08-07-2001 11:15 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
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Hrtbrkrgrl,
I haven't seen the guitar, but if it's not stripped try using a little plumber's tape (that white tape that seals pipe's). If that doesn't do it you may need a new block (not the whole bridge though). If it is stripped you would need a tap set, don't know whether that or block is cheaper...hope that helps....
l,red,
yep, still here......
08-09-2001 06:03 PM
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HeartbreakerGal
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: VA
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Thanks Chinner
Hi Chinner,
I appreciate your responding to my question. I am pretty sure that the guitar is stripped. Also, my son says thanks so much for the information. He wasn't sure what needed to be done to correct the problem.
Thanks again,
Deb
08-10-2001 03:46 AM
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biancocat2
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Registered: Aug 2001
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more questions
Hello ChinnerSW:
I have a few more questions for ya hope I'm not to much of a pain in the ass ;^}
What model line 6 is MC using?
Is MC using line 6 pedals also and have you had any problems with them?
How do you get that Surf sound are you using an Sde-3000 and some sort of reverb or?
And last but not lest for now what can you tell me about a tele I believe is called red dog? (red with two humbuckers neck, middle and a bigsby) I last saw it in the 80's it has since gone into hiding.
Hope all is well Joe
p.'s The Wayhuge Camel Toe's have disappeared or are way way over priced $800 since the owner went to work for Line 6 and shut down operations :{ I'm still looking for one.
08-14-2001 01:32 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
Posts: 36
Bianocat,
Line6...pretty reliable...I've had to tighten some circuit boards under the footswitchs.....MC stomps really hard...Red dog? That's like seeing "bigfoot" some say it's real other's aren't so sure.....I've seen it though...or did I dream it?
SDE3000 setting's.........Breakdown intro....550ms, 04feedback, 12 delay out.....general slapback lead delay...247ms, 04feedback, 12delay out.....surf stuff....119ms, 12feedback, 51delayout, with chourus set at 88 and 09.....as I said before, good luck trying to sound like Mike Campbell....many have tried and many have failed....it's all in the fingers....LOL
08-15-2001 08:27 AM
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biancocat2
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Thanks
Hello ChinnerSW:
Thanks for the info. I agree its 99.9 percent in his hands/soul but that .1percent helps the rest of us try. I always found it interesting how a player can pick up just about anything and sound like himself weather it be Chet Atkins, Muriel Anderson, or Jimmy Page. Thanks Joe
08-15-2001 11:36 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
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Bianocat2,
I'm not trying to discourage you......just trying to enlighten you. Keep playing and find your own unique sound. It sounds like you're on the right track.
08-18-2001 01:58 AM
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biancocat2
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Hello ChinnerSW I found what I think is a bit nicer plug than the Swicthcraft. Made by G&H it's just like my George L plug except it's a Quiet Plug here is the Part Number:
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08-24-2001 at 01:34 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Location: Glendale, CA
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Bianocat,
Hey, thanks for the tip. They look pretty cool, one of the things about the switchcraft is the little button sometime's comes out.
08-25-2001 12:24 AM
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Trembling-Blender
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Hey there....
Hey everyone! Remember me?? Well, i had a few things to sort out ie college, but everythings back to normal now.
Hey Chinner, hope you're still about. Man, what did u think of TPATH on that telethon thing - pretty cool, huh??
Well, i was wondering what effect/combination of effects Mike used for the intro and outro for "i won't back down"?
Another thing that i'm confused about - Mike and the guys played one song, but Mike had two amps....how does that work out?
If you had to choose between the ac-30 and the line 6, what would it be and why?
ok, this is the last one...i promise! Is the line 6 amp that Mike has got quiet enough for bedroom use? what about the ac-30?
Thanks Chinner!
Later!
~Ross
09-24-2001 02:44 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Trembling,
Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool and they played and sounded great. He was using the same thing he used on tour. A Line6 delay pedal (the green one) that's the effect you hear on the intro and outro and a Camel Toe distortion......The reason he uses both amps is because he takes the effects send from the Line6 and sends into the AC30. The thing with the Line6 is there is a switch in the back with a direct out that will shut off the speakers, though there is no headphone out you may be able to use the effect send into some powered headphone's for use in your dorm room. Hope that helps.......
09-24-2001 03:55 PM
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Trembling-Blender
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Hey, thanks man...
...for replying so quick. I think i'm gonna go for the line 6, but the thing is, i don't want to buy an amp and then a month later it is out-dated by a new amp with the latest amp and effects modelling technology. I think I'll take a chance though...
oh, one thing i meant to ask u about : I'm picking up my '52 telecaster reissue tomorrow, and the pickup configuration is kind of strange. Basically, the neck pickup comes with a preset bassy tone, and from what ive heard it is basically unusable. So is this the same with the broadcaster? If it is, did Mike have it changed to 'modern day' configuration? While I'm at it, does Mike have a '52 reissue tele?
Remember the daddy-o overdrive pedal which you so kindly helped me out with? well, i think i'm having problems with it... Am i right in saying that if you play a chord, any chord, you'll hear the crunch of the overdrive, but towards the end (while the chord is still ringing out), the crunch dies away, and your left with an almost clean sounding chord, albeit very quiet? I just noticed it the other day, and i'm thinking the pedal might be duff. Its just that i would expect the crunch to last right up until the chord finishes. Any ideas?
ok, ive been wondering this (namely because i've been having trouble with it myself), but does Mike know all his sharp and flat scales (both major and minor) inside out? I'm debating whether or not i can accelerate my learning by "pushing aside" some areas of work lol!
finally, you'll be glad to hear, one last question: does Mike smoke??? I know tom does, but always wondered about Mike lol! hey, whats his brand???
Well, thanks again for taking your time to read through the posts and thanks for your answer.
Later!
~Ross
09-25-2001 11:30 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Glendale, CA
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Tremblin',
The neck pickup on the tele is a different output impedence than the bridge (less widings around the magnet, as I'm sure you know). This and the lack of ability to adjust height and position in relation to the bridge (the closer to the bridge the brighter the tone) are the reason for the difference in output and tone. It is possible that a winding has broken (although rare) this would result in different output. To my knowledge all parts on the Broadcaster are original with the exception of the output jack/plate. MC did have a 52' Tele reissue until he gave it to me for Christmas a couple of years ago. The Daddy-o loses distortion as it get's quieter....hmmmm haven't heard of that, try to change settings and see if it still happens...if so go to a music store and try out a new pedal under the same curcumstance's and see if you get the same results......MC smokes an occasional cigar and once in a great while he'll come sit with me before encore's and smoke one of my cigarette's, but that's very rare.....
To all others interested in sneakers and who said what in between takes on a session that happened 15 years before I was an employee, I would appreciate keeping the questions here to a technical nature. If I'm not mistaken there are other forums for those type's of discussions......Thanks, das chinner
10-04-2001 04:22 AM
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BiancoCat3
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Hello Chinner long time no speak:
Did you get a chance to try those other quite plugs?
I decided to use a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 distortion pedal in stead of the Camel Toe. (Wayhuge only made 12 of them)
A web acquaintance is selling this Byrd Rickenbacker and thought maybe Mike or Tom would be interested? so here the info-- he's asking $14,000 OBO ;^} Let me know if you want his e-mail
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Thanks will talk soon J
P.S will you be at namm this year ?
10-04-2001 11:24 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Location: Glendale, CA
Posts: 36response Bianocat,
Haven't tried the new plugs yet......anything by Fulltone is fine especially their wah-wah's, Benmont was using one for Clavinet sounds I think......The last guitar I recommended MC buy was an electric dulcimer....I think they're all set with Rick's but I'll email MC with the link, thanks a bunch... I can only handle NAMM's every couple of years......LOL
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10-06-2001 09:26 AM
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Trembling-Blender
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Thanks....
Hey thanks for replying to my post. Oh, i sorted out the daddy-o problem.....i just discovered how crap one of my guitars is lol! So with the new tele, its fine.
About my '52 reissue tele...(hey thanks for telling me about the wiring - i didnt know that)...because its a brand new guitar, u know, shiny and clean, i notice all the little hairline scratches.....so my question is should i worry about the tele getting marked? And should i polish it with a cloth after each time play it? I need some expertice here.....lol
oh...a question about your tele....do u find that when u touch a string, the control panel, or the bridge plate, it makes a slight pop in the amp?? Its as if the guitar is being earthed somewhere. Well thats my only problem....
Lastly....does MC worry about his broadcaster getting marked? Like propping it up against something, or marking the back of it with a belt buckle or shirt buttons? What condition is the broadcaster in anyway?
Well, thats it!
Thanks!
(hey - im getting a line 6 amp in 3 weeks! My idea is....buy the same model as the line 6 flextone II XL, except with only one 12 inch speaker, and get the foot controller aswell......then someday down the line, buy an AC-30. I tried a line 6 out the other day - the speaker isn't really that great, but the effects are killers. I'll maybe run the line 6 into the fender deluxe 112 plus that i've got here, and bypass the line 6 speaker. I'll figure something out....)
10-08-2001 12:13 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Tremblin',
All paths to earth should be solid (tighten all nuts on pots and jacks) check to make sure the solder joint on back of the bridge plate is not a cold solder (it may not even be soldered).......when you touch the metal YOU are the earth...As far as marks on the tele, it's your call. Depending on how much you sweat on metal, just keep that salt off. MC doesn't ever want to clean the neck especially on maple necks...it's more of a soulful look although this affects the tone so it's a trade off......The condition of the Broadcaster considering age is quite good......Line6 is starting to come out with a Celestion version of their speaker, check to see if that's an option....
10-10-2001 08:49 PM
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Travvis
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Chinner,
I just wanted to say thanks to you. Back on the old message board I had a couple of questions about Mike's "Jerry Garcia / Jaguar" guitar. You told me it was built buy Bernie Hamburger and gave the web address. After talking with him a couple of times, I finally ordered a custom guitar from him. I've had it a little over a month and have to say this is by far the nicest guitar I have ever owned or played. This may sound a little cheesey, but I never would have known who had built Mike's guitar or how to get in touch with them if you weren't posting here.
Thanks again,
Travvis
10-11-2001 07:50 AM
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BiancoCat3
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Yes are there any new gadget's or guitars you can talk about?
Peace,J10-12-2001 03:53 AM
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Trembling-Blender
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Well, i'll certainly check out the celestion speaker option on the line 6, and hey - i think MC's right about the maple neck....it makes the guitar a bit more personal.
Thanks again man - i don't think i'll be able to get on the net in the next week/week and a half, but I'll be postin again soon.
Later!
Ross
10-14-2001 01:39 PM
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BiancoCat3
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Do you run any kind of varyack regulator with the old vox's ?
Rock On J10-20-2001 10:01 AM
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Trembling-Blender
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Hey chinner...a question about effscts....
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Posts: 10ok, you might remember this and you might not, but what was the effect/combination of effects that Mike used on Don't Come Around Here No More for the '92 shows? At the beginning of the song where he was messin around with guitars, it was as if he was playing in harmony with himself (i think Brian May does something like that to). So how could i recreate that ? Hey, has Mike met Brian before?
Also, how does Mike manage to keep all his guitars in "trim"? Basically, because of the terrible fact that you can only play one guitar at a time (lol), it means that the strings on my guitars wear at different rates. Its come to the point that I'm changing strings nearly twice a week on my guitars. So how does Mike cope with his 250 guitars??
Oh while I'm postin - i got the Bunch of Videos video the other day (its real funny) and on the Jammin me video, Mike is playing a gretsch hollowbody. Now i know he might have that guitar just to look good on the video, but could i get that jammin me sound out of a gretsch?
Thats another thing.....how does Mike decide what guitar to sling over his shoulder for a music video??
Well thats it!
Thanks chinner!
~Ross10-25-2001 12:57 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 37Tremblin,
Sorry to hear about your grandpa........hang in there. The effect MC used to do in '92 went like this as I recall. During the break on the song before I would take the delay out into a stereo volume pedal and he would start one delay with one delay time let that loop and then I would hit the bypass on the other delay and he would play a different pattern while they both just looped. Then when TP came out of the tree I would turn the volume pedal off and turn it back on on cue. Then he would set the second guitar in a stand while they were looping and play a bazooki over them both. That's a long time ago and I might not have it quite right, but that's the general idea...two amp's two delay's and two delay setting's. MC doesn't sweat alot when he play's (not his hands anyway) so I can get by changing about once a week because he use's a different guitar for each song (generally). On the last tour he used the Firebird alot and I was changing them every other day. As far as "Jammin Me" I think it was recorded with the Broadcaster and he played it live with the Firebird...both are solidbody single coil...so I think it would be difficult to duplicate with a Gretsch. I'm not sure how he decide's what to play on video. Oh yeah, back to string life....after the show try wiping down the string's with alcohol or WD-40 (not too much) this should extend string life a little.....
Bianocat,
New toy's.....hmmmmm. MC was foolin around with a new Line6 pedal (purple thing forgot name) and was having fun with it, haven't seen it this time though. George (Drakulius producer) brought in some pedals from the UK, one was a "Brown Source" and the other was an orange one (not sure of the name.....as far as variac's I would never use one on vintage amp's...I think it would be too hard on the old parts (transformers, filter cap's etc.).
Sorry I haven't answered in awhile but I had trouble logging in...had to re-enter all my info....
btw, we've been in the studio since Monday and the new stuff is very cool (one song reminded me of "Abby Roads" era Beatles and another was very different......10-25-2001 01:51 AM
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Posts: 4Hi Chiner:
I must be confused by variac I met a thing to drop the voltage down to where it use to be so the amp will run at a cooler tempter.
By varica you mean something like a thd hot plate or power brake? I agree that's a Bs thing to do to an amp if I remember right they has a bad habit of blowing up amp's.
I also am going to run a second amp for my fulldrive2 & wha . I don't dig the line 6's maybe a newer vox ac30tb reissue If it could handle it.
Hope al is Well, Peace,J
P.S Can't Wait to hear the Abby Road sounding songs.
I hear the tribute album for Sun Studio should be very cool and interesting with everyone doing it the old way. moor for the others than this band.10-25-2001 04:59 AM
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no1pettyfan
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Posts: 152Very cool, Chinner! I always wondered how Mike did that. Not that I understood everything you said but I think I got most of it.
Was that tour fun for you or was it a pain in the butt with all those special things going on? Like the tree. I bet that took a long time to put up and take down everytime. I know you didn't have anything to do with the tree but I just wondered about it. It looked huge! It was such a cool set but it looked like it must have been a lot of work for the crew. Who played the Psychodelic Dragon? Anyone we know?
What was your favorite tour?
Marion
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Posts: 4Hi Chiner:
I must be confused by variac I met a thing to drop the voltage down to where it use to be so the amp will run at a cooler tempter.
By varica you mean something like a thd hot plate or power brake? I agree that's a Bs thing to do to an amp if I remember right they has a bad habit of blowing up amp's.
I also am going to run a second amp for my fulldrive2 & wha . I don't dig the line 6's maybe a newer vox ac30tb reissue If it could handle it.
Hope al is Well, Peace,J
P.S Can't Wait to hear the Abby Road sounding songs.
I hear the tribute album for Sun Studio should be very cool and interesting with everyone doing it the old way. moor for the others than this band.10-25-2001 04:59 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 38I liked the tree...didn't think it was too labor intensive (then again I wasn't doing it...lol). The dragon was Mark C......
When I was talking about a variac I thought it was to increase the voltage to around 127 V/AC....I don't recommend going anywhere lower than 110 or higher than 122.......btw, I asked MC how he decides what to use on video's and he said whatever looks good....Duh! LOL...(guess I should have thought about the question before asking it).....slide in the studio....hmmmmm Scott Thurston was playing a lap steel last night.......the mood is very upbeat and everyone seems to be in very good spirits.......oh yeah the orange thing is called a "Big Cheese".... http://www.lovetone.com/ .......also they've been trying alot of Fulltone stuff... http://www.fulltone.com/10-26-2001 11:19 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 42Bianocat,
Thanks for sticking up for me..........
To all others,
TP&HB's have been in the studio all last week recording new material and all you want to know is what my birthday is and what kind of coffee Mike drink's...?? Well ok then.....my bday is 9/6....Mike likes it black as I recall....10-30-2001 05:07 AM
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GoneGator
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Posts: 28You're right Chinner! I've got some questions in no particular order!:
How many songs have been recorded?
At this rate, when do you think the album will be finished?
Does Tom bring demos into the studio or does he just play them for the band?
Have Mike or Benmont brought songs they've written?
How's Howie?
What guitars have been used so far?
Any unusual guitar effects being used? Maybe unusual is a bad choice of words, but different?
Can you say anything about the lyrics of the songs you've heard?
Ok, I'm sure I'll come up with a bunch more and I'm sure I just opened a can of worms...
Happy Belated Birthday!
Sean
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no1pettyfan
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Posts: 156Hey, Chinner!
I'm kind of scared to ask you anything about that. I feel like I'm prying and you can't tell us any secrets anyway.
So, here it goes. Here are my questions. Can you tell us how many tracks might be on the new album? Are they gonna fill it up to the max? I hope, I hope!! Are they happy songs? Rockin? Ballads? Did the attack on America effect the tone of the album?
I'm so excited about the new album, I can't stand it!
Thanks for sticking with us, Chinner.
Marion
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Posts: 90Sean, you sure did open a can of worms I was trying to add in a semi-non-technical question about the studio sessions every week to this thread hoping Chinner would give us a hint of what's going on in there. You sure gave him some great questions to answer, Marion also. My very so non-technical questions will follow.
Panky2, I think we all need to have a good laugh or grin once in a while even if this the tech thread. I wouldn't think Chinner minds if we just ingest a little humor to what some may consider a boring topic during these trying times we live in, as long as we don't get carried away. Chinner does seem to have a reserved since of humor, he does an occasionally LOL. I take mine regular.
BTW nice web page design, Chinner.
My questions to Chinner are:
Have you heard any possible inclusions from cds not included on the ‘Greatest Hits’?
Or inclusion of songs that could be interpreted as a collective conscience of how the world feels, like Wildflowers "...You belong some where you feel free" so après pro considering what different nations call freedom.
Have any past members of the band showed up at the secessions, and has anyone stopped by to pick or sing a bit?
Cathee a/k/a Web Witch10-30-2001 08:55 PM
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Bonnie1
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Posts: 50I don't ask about what they're doing in the studio because I like when I get a brand new CD in my hands. I peel the plastic paper off and open the jewel case. I put the cd in the player and listen for the first time. All surprises. Completely unprepared.
That's what I'm looking forward to.
Biancocat, sorry to bother you. I wanted to know his bday and I don't see Chinner post anywhere else on the board.
I like my coffee with cream and sweet n low.
I got my calendar today. Chinners birthday wasn't noted in there but I'm writing it in! This calendar is S-Weet!
Chinner, thanks for keeping us informed. I do read all the techie stuff and I get it but I have nothing to add so I just listen(read)and learn. Thank you!!!10-30-2001 09:35 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 42Boy talk about a can of worms.......I should go fishin'!....LOL
Guitar's......the usual suspects are all there with the exception of the Broadcaster....
TP does have a home studio and does come in with cd demos....
I'm not gonna comment on Howie other than to say my thoughts and prayers are with Carlene and him and that bass duties were shared by TP, Scott and MC. I think Cathy or the office should have more info on that.
MC has been trying some TrueTone stuff as well as some LoveTone stuff and he tried something with a TC delay/chorus
The tone of the record is kind of treblie (that's a techie joke...)
The mood is upbeat considering various distractions........
I haven't heard whether Mike or Benmont have submitted songs but it wouldn't surprise me......
At this rate expect a new record when they're finished recording................LOL
P.S. I like my coffee like I like my women....half full of Bailey's......LMAO10-31-2001 05:03 AM
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Get your pole!
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Posts: 28Thanks Steve! Maybe the next time you're in Atlanta we'll go fishin'!
Here are some more worms:
Does Mike ever use any open tunings? I've seen a capo used on some songs, but never open tunings.
I was watching a band rehearse last week. The guitar tech, was actually making the effects changes from side stage as opposed to the guitarist using a pedal. How much weight is on your shoulders during a show? Does Mike always control his effect changes or do you make some changes during certain songs? Ever really screwed up? haha
How much writing is actually done IN the studio? I know some bands have to be concerned with studio time costs (of course, not the Heartbreakers). How much is done before entering the studio?
What's the tracking order with The Heartbreakers? Some bands lay the drum tracks down to a click then ad the other instruments. I think Rush records the instruments first and then Neil Peart records the drums. That amazes me!
If you're in a vehicle doing the speed of light, and then you turn your lights on, do they do anything? LOL I love that Steven Wright joke!
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Posts: 26Chinner,
You mentioned Mike is playing some Bass on this new album (yeah, I still call them albums). I know he's played Bass on other stuff before. So, what kind of Bass(es) does Mike have. Like his Broadcaster, does he have a favorite Bass or at least one he prefers over his others (if he has more than one)?
When Tom and Mike record their Bass parts, do they go through an amp or direct?
What kind of Bass amp(s) does Mike use?
I also would like to tell you how much I appreciate you coming here and answering our questions. It's very cool to get a true inside look as to what goes on in the studio and on stage with the Heartbreakers.
For what it's worth, I like my coffee with double cream and quadruple sugars. At some point does it cease to be coffee?
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refugee331
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Posts: 297I would like to say, having seen Chinner at work he keeps very busy, he is very dedicated and he makes sure that Mike sounds good. You do a great job Chinner! And thanks again for answering our questions, it is greatly appreciated.
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 42Open tunings.......MC has used different ones, but mainly open G
THE bass amp for just about all HB's stuff is an old Ampeg B-15 (fliptop). The bass has a DI and is miked. This time they have used a Hofner vintage and an Epiphone (Rivoli), but have used Rickenbacher's and Fender's as well.
As I said before TP has demos that the band listen to then they decide who plays what then they record it a couple of times until George or Rick feel they have someting to listen back to then they talk some more and if they all are happy with performance they'll do another one or two to see if they can beat the best take then listen to it again a couple days later.
I used to do some delay preset changes but haven't done much since he's been using the Line6 stuff......
Gonegator,
As far as the recording process, I don't think they "Rush" anything......LOL
Steven Wright.......A friend of mine works for a radio station and whenever we're driving in the car and go under a bridge I can't hear a word he's saying..........11-01-2001 05:21 AM
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Posts: 19Hi, Chinner. I was just wondering: what are on those hooks that hang from Mike's mic? Are they used for his guitars? Thanks!
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 43Panky2,
Sorry, I didn't see your post till today. Actually they are rubber bands of different colors with three different key's of harmonicas.....A, E, G. FYI, besides working for MC I do other artist's as well. If I don't answer your question fast enough it's probably because I'm busy with something else.11-02-2001 07:53 AM
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GoneGator
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Posts: 43Thanks for answering my questions Steve! Here are a couple more...
What key is the Harmonica played in You Don't Know How It Feels? I bought the wrong one. haha
You've probably answered this before, but how many guitars does Mike own? Do you know how many Tom owns?
More Steven Wright... I've got a friend who some people think is weird because he has side burns BEHIND his ears. I think he's weird because he put braces on his false teeth! LOL.11-02-2001 03:26 PM
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awood29
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Posts: 3hey chinner!
Just wondering if Mike or Tom use any Fulltone effects, if so which ones?
thanks,
andy11-02-2001 06:38 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 47awood,
MC has been trying different Fulltone stuff....so far the keepers are the "69", the FatBoost and I think it's called a FullDrive ( it's blue and has a boost switch)....hope that helps
Gonegator,
Wrong key? Well one down eleven to go......LOL. Sorry, I'm not sure what key that was in.......How many guitars does MC have.......more than he can play at once but not enough to keep him from buying more! LMAO
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Travvis
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Posts: 34Chinner,
What are the chances we'll get to hear Mike sing on the new album. I personally thought "I Don't Wanna Fight" was a cool song. It was neat he got to do some lead vocals.11-05-2001 11:39 PM
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Posts: 47Travis,
Not sure what the chance's are of MC singing on this record........but I know the chances of that are alot better than the chances of me knowing what songs are gonna be on the next record....hope that helps...11-06-2001 12:59 AM
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awood29
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Posts: 3Hey Chinner...
I noticed Mike had some Line 6 amps he was using on the last tour...just wondering if he was playing the clean channel with pedal effects mostly...or utilizing some of the preset effects on the amp. If so, which ones? I've tried some of the line 6 stuff, like it fine, but still prefer my Vox AC-15 with a few good pedals....thanks!11-06-2001 03:46 PM
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ItsLRed
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Posts: 16Hi Chinner I have a guitar Question, Would a less expensive Guitar still have good sound! Peace L,RED
11-13-2001 12:10 AM
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Travvis
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Posts: 34I think it depends. The single pick up Les Paul jr. was a "student" guitar, fairly inexpensive. Yet a lot of people that can "afford any guitar" use them. Paul Westerberg from the Replacements and Rick Richards from Georgia Satellites and Izzy Stradlin And The Ju Ju Hounds, both use them.
There are other inexpensive guitars that many people use because they like that sound. Danelectros are cheap guitars basically made of plywood, but man oh man, nothing else sounds like them.
My point is that a higher price may mean better quality and better tone, but it isn't always the case.
BTW, look for used guitars. A guitar that cost $1,000 new a year or two ago can be picked up for $500 - $600 used.11-13-2001 08:28 AM
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 7Good Point. I agree with you. I just had in mind a plywood fender with the neck that's 1/4" off and it usually has an extra 6 holes in it from previous attempts to install it.
What would you say is equivalent to a Les Paul Jr these days at a reasonable price? Gibsons are $700. and Heavy & Gibson Custom Shop $1500.
Peace J11-13-2001 01:04 PM
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Panky2
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Posts: 24Panky2,
Man, I'm confused. I've never met Mike. I have a link to a picture of my guitar. On that site there is a link to Bernie Hamburger's site (he built my guitar, as well as one of Mike's). There is a picture on HIS site of HIM and Mike. Mike is holding the guitar Bernie built for him. Mike's is sort of 1/2 Jerry Garcia and 1/2 Fender Jaguar (upside down). While mine is sort of 1/2 Mike Campbell and 1/2 Telecaster.11-13-2001 11:36 PM
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Mike playing his Bernie Hamburger Guitar.
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Posts: 3Hey Chinner!
Just wondering if Mike or Tom have any of the 600 series Rickenbackers? If so, what's the overall verdict on them. Also, on Mike's custom Rick 350 that he used mostly in early 90's, is the lacquer still on the fretboard, or taken off? I find when playing lead on Rickenbackers, the lacquer on the board makes it too sticky sometimes. He did some killer work with that axe and I was just wondering if his had a fretboard finish or just plain rosewood......thanks!!11-14-2001 08:15 PM
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Posts: 62Warning: The following is only a joke.
I don’t get this. Here we have a category called “Anything That’s Rock ‘n’ Roll". In this category is a thread in which Chinner is nice enough to come and answer all kinds of questions we have. This is very nice of him. We should also feel very lucky, as I haven’t seen anyone else of his stature on other boards.
Here is what I don’t get.
Tom's guitar tech has his very own category ... "Bug Reports", but he never does. I have yet to see Bug(s) report on anything. Nothing, zilch, nada.
So how come Chinner just gets a thread and Bug(s) gets a whole category that he never uses.__________________
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Posts: 12....for gettin back to me about the string life, and the other bits and pieces taht i asked you about - it really helped.
Well, i'm really sorry for not gettin back to you soon enough, but ive just been really busy with college - exams are in two weeks, and the lecturers seem to think we have the time to write up lab reports too lol!!!!
Well anyway....just a couple of questions:
I was watching the take the highway video the other day, and i'm hooked on the song "Makin Some Noise". Do you know what tuning Mike uses for that? Its either dropped D, or open D but i'm not sure. So, building on that....you know Mike has his little Gone Gator record company, and some sort of publishing business?? (I'm sure u do, this is just leading me to the main part of the question lol) Is it possible that Mike has Makin Some Noise tabbed out for the guitar??? Its a long shot, but i can hope lol!
Ok, next one: I've got the opportunity of getting a rickenbacker 330 pickup, and i'm thinking about replacing the bridge humbucker on the 12 string of my Gordon Smith twin neck. Any ideas on what it might sound like??? Its a solid mahogany body, and at present ive got coil tap on that humbucker. I posted a pic a while back, so you might remember it.
Ermmm...thats really it. Oh yeah...has Mike got any Gordon Smith guitars??? Just curious about that one...
Oh yeah (geez, all the questions are coming back to me now lol)....how does Mike decide what guitars to take to the studio everyday??? Is it whatever guitar hes been jamming on the night before or something else??
Well, this is the last one, and its been bothering me for ages. Ok, take for example runnin' down a dream live. Now ive got the daddy-o pedal at a sweet crunch sound (I'm playing my 52 RI tele), and its coming up to the solo. When i start the solo up at the 12th fret, it sounds really thin, and the notes sound a bit punchy. So what effect can i use to give me a boost, and allow the notes to blend into each other??? Ive tried a graphic eq, but that just builds upon the punchy, thin sound. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
Well, thanks again chinner for your help before, and i'm sure i'm speaking on behalf of everyone when i say that we've really appreciated you coming online and talking to us.
See ya!
~Ross11-20-2001 08:42 PM
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18on making some nose just tune down the low e to d and the a to g and rock out !
the tab is in one of there song books.
hope this helps J
oh yea and you need a wha for the solo
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 56Tremblin', Travis, Awood
TP's signiture series Rick is a 660/12, he has used it on several songs in the set as I recall. MC's custom Rick does have a laquered fingerboard (although I rarely clean it...he likes the soul left on....on all fingerboards for that matter). As far as tuning on "makin some noise"......bianocat is probably right...she usually is....LOL. As far as switching a rick pickup for a humbucker....check the output impedence....I don't think they are the same and it may take some getting used to to find the spot on volume controls where they work well together (this is what MC does on the Farrington dbl neck and Hamburguitar). As far as the tele not sounding even at the 12th fret......hmmmmm....it's hard to diagnose a guitar I can't see.....Make sure the radius of the bridge is the same as the neck......7.25 for Fender if I'm not mistaken....then adjust pickups accordingly....(and check for a raised fret). How does MC decide what guitar to play....after listening to the demo....he'll know pretty much what he's looking for and go from there....As far as the Bug report's..thread.....I think that refer's to quirk's....aka "bug's" that need to be reported.....it's not a thread for TP's tech to answer questions.....11-24-2001 08:06 AM
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HeartbreakerGal
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Posts: 72Hi Chinner,
My son wants an acoustic/electric guitar for Christmas. He has been looking at a Washburn, a Fender, and a Takamine. Of the three brands, can you give some insight into some things we should consider when buying one of these. I have held him to around $300 so if this guitar should become a dust collector I won't be out of so much money. He already has a Fender electric and likes the feel of that. Any suggestions or helpful ideas will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Deb11-26-2001 11:55 PM
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Travvis
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Posts: 62Deb,
I've heard good things about Takamine. I've seen everyone from from Joe Walsh to Jerry Garcia play them.
I do know this:
Don't buy a Washburn.
I had a Washburn acoustic. Learn from my mistakes. My old guitar tech who did my set ups and all worked in the repair dept. at Washburn. When I told him I used to have one and got rid of it, he told me he worked there and that being in the repair dept. he "had a job for life".
My very humble advice is to take the $300 and see if he can come up with maybe another $200 (if he is serious, he will) and look at a nicer used acoustic. Maybe a Larrivee or inexpensive Taylor.
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Posts: 28I want to buy a 52 tele, I saw one for like 1200$
are they nice guitars? I couldnt really tell, I only played in for a few minutes and it sounded really good to me, I think I could get a rickenbacker, like Harrison used to play, for around the same price, which one would be a better buy?
I dont know how much new ricks go for, the one I saw was a 1999, so like you guys were saying before, It would be a lot less.
thanks for any help.
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HeartbreakerGal
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Posts: 72Thanks Travvis for the information. If anyone else has some more info they might be helpful, please feel free to share it. I greatly appreciate all the information I can get.
Thanks,
Deb11-27-2001 11:37 PM
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Cathee
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Posts: 503I know nothing about guitars, took a few lessons back in the 60's and discovered than my fingers were to short to fit around the neck, so you better not listen to me. My husband bought a used Bentley acoustic last year for $150 and it sounds sweet to me. Maybe someone can fill you in on that make. From listening to my son and husband talk guitars DO NOT even consider a Washburn, Travvis is right-on there.
Deb would you son consider a used guitar I know my son has been real lucky with used Fender's? Good luck and I hope your son enjoys whatever you end up getting him.
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 56Hbrkrgal,
I agree with Travis....of the choice's given I think Takamine is the best overall choice.....you may want to check a Guild now that they are owned by Fender they may be in your price range......11-28-2001 06:10 AM
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Bonnie1
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Posts: 137Hi Deb!!! Hi Everyone!
I don't think I've ever played an electric acoustic but I've seen some pretty nice acoustic guitars for well under $200.00 at the store Ben took drum lessons at before I moved. If this is his first guitar you might want to look at a used electric acoustic. Lots of people buy stuff like that then decide they don't want it anymore or whatever. I got my acoustic that I play to this day for $50.00 from a guy who wanted the money for something else. The only thing I would say, though, is that he should definitely play it before you buy it!
The ONLY kind of shopping I like is guitar shopping!11-28-2001 01:41 PM
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HeartbreakerGal
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Thanks!
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Posts: 72Thanks for the information Chinner, Travvis, Cathee, and Bonnie. This would be a second guitar for him. He has a Fender electric which he walks around playing a lot (much to the chagrin of his father). I will look into the second-hand market and see what I can find.
Thanks again to everyone who responded. I truly appreciate all the input.
Take care,
Deb11-29-2001 04:18 AM
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JerryTalton
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Posts: 23Pettyboy,
Buy the '52 Tele Reissue. If you got a Rick for about the same price, you'd have a nice guitar, but it's a very specific sort of sound. I think a lot of what Fender makes today is absolute junk, but the '52 Telecasters are something special: almost impossible to knock out of tune, very lightweight, a great (and very versatile) sound, and a neck that couldn't be any easier to play.
One caveat, though: make sure you play a few of 'em before you buy. There's a fair amount of variation to the pickups (at least enough to make it worth comparing a few).
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Deb,
Sticking my $0.02 in...take your son to a bunch of music stores and let him play all the different guitars in his price range. I owned a $100 Washburn acoustic that played and sounded better than the $600 Takamine acoustic/electric that came after it. I'd hold that old Washburn up against the Gibson J-200 I use today, but I'll bet a lot of people would think I'm crazy for saying so. Brand names in the wonderful world of guitars really mean very little (with a few notable exceptions)--it really comes down almost totally to personal preference.
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Chinner,
Just thought you might get a kick out of this. I'm trying to fit it in the semester after next (kind of a hard sell for a Computer Science major, but what the hell?). http://webug.physics.uiuc.edu/courses/phys398/
Doesn't my school rock?
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Posts: 137Jerry, you got me thinking. (watch out ) I'd like to be able to go to a website and fill out a questionairre about amps and get a list of amps that would be in my price range that would do what I want it to do(or at least some things I'd want it to do. Could you get any credit for a project like that??? Chinner, do you know of such a website??
You see, I'm finding out that I've lost a lot of stuff in my moves earlier in the year. I'm not terribly surprised cuz it was sort of a quick, throw everything where ever I could find space sort of a move and I was in 2 temporary homes moving that stuff around too. I lost my amp. It wasn't a very good one but I bought a guitar thinking I had an amp to play it on. Anyway, I'm hoping that maybe I can get Santa to bring me an amp along with plenty of gift certificates to Home Depot .. I just don't know what kind of amp to ask for and I don't know how to describe what I'd like. I think someone who has experience with amps and how they sound could come up with a list of questions that reflect certain characteristics of certain amps and price ranges and develop a useful tool for dummies like me to use as a starting point when shopping for things like this. Sounds like a good project for a college student to me!11-29-2001 01:18 PM
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Your best best is your local music store.
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Posts: 404We are so fortunate to have in the next town, a good old fashioned, independently owned music store. These guys are worth seeking out. The owner is friends with all the band directors in town, most of the church choir directors, and plays in a jazz band himself. (i.e. He isn't hard to find.)
The other day, I needed a music stand. I had 10 minutes to make a selection. I went in, sat down, described what I needed, and soon had my pick of 4.
The week before, I needed a gift for a young guitarist. I went in, sat down with the same musician clerk, described the abilities of the gift receiver and her equipment. Bam! He suggested a lovely strap that really delighted her.
If I needed an amp, I would have every confidence that these folks would match me up well.
I am very leary of on-line sales, so will pick a local store every time. Returns and service are easier. Also, if you are in the market for used amps, I would think that on-line sources would have a tough time guaranteeing availability of inventory. Good luck!11-29-2001 09:55 PM
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pettyboy
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Posts: 28Thanks Jerry! thats what I needed to hear!
the music store I go to is pretty far away, so I can only go down there a few times a year. They only had one 52 tele. maybe next time they'll have more than one so I can compare.
man I want one of those!
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Hey chinner....
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Posts: 12thanks for gettin back to me on that. I got the Rickenbacker pickup, so now i just need to wait until it gets fitted. It'll be interesting to say the least!!
Anyway, a quick question......my local guitar shop is selling a shop soiled Rickenbacker 325 (v63 or c58 or something....had a look over at the Rick site and i cant seem to see it...). Its black, 3 toaster pickups, one of those U shaped square tailpieces (u know what i mean lol), the rhythm tone knob is loose, and its a 12 string strung up with 6 strings. Everything seems pretty sound about it - excellent quality, excellent tone.
However....Its got a short scale neck. Now its my first time ever playing a short scale, and it seemed strange...its ok playing chords, but up at like the 12th fret, my fingers are bulging over the fret, and i was hitting wrong strings and stuff - The frets just seem really small.
So what do u think i should do??? Whats ur views on short scale guitars - can i play them just the same way i play my other guitars? Does Mike ever use any?? And are there any problems with short scale guitars?
Also, probably just a minor thing...but the middle pickup was getting in the way when i was digging at the strings. Do you think i would be able to remove the moddle pickup?? And maybe fill in the cavity with something??
Well, thats it.
Many thanks!!
~Ross12-05-2001 02:15 PM
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18Hello Chinner:
I am rebuilding a 1968 - 370-12 with a longer R tail piece
(I think Rick used it on there big hollow body's in the sixty's)
so it decreases the string length by about 1" or so and it seems a bit harder to fret notes or chords any truth to this?
I don't think this would affect tuning but you would no better than I.
Is there an inherent defect with Ric's in regards to bridge placement on these 1960's 12's It seems I have an intonation problem with the G strings very very finicky ?? (oop's I had the saddles in the reverse order -corected and thousand times better )
Do you have any 0.0000 measurement for the neck relief to go by when setting up MC's 12 strings ? just curious I have it in shape now .
Thanks for all you help. I hope to have pic's of this guitar on the web before Christmas. Lindy Fraylin is rebuilding my pick up's and Don buttler is tweaking my electronics'
Thanks ,J
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HighGrassDog
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News...?
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Posts: 75So...Chinner...I was wondering if you have any updates from the studio? How are things going? Any progress? What's the stuff sounding like? ANYTHING? Please, I'm dying to know SOMETHING!!
Thanks so much for all the time you've taken and responses and updates in the past. We really appreciate it very much!
Mike
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Bonnie1
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Chinner???
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12-06-2001 12:53 PM
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Cathee
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 56Thanks Cathee and Bonnie I have been busy with something else......
Bianocat,
Lindy is great, I had a pickup on MC's Rick 12 string and he was really worried about a tone change and when it came back it was as good as new....he was totally pleased...I don't think the "R" bridge creates any intonation problems....I think it has more to do with two strings on one bridge piece. As far as setting up the action it's mainly just a feel thing......I explained how I do that in a previous post but here goes again.....with your left hand index finger fret the low E at the second fret then with the right hand fret the 14th or 15th fret with the pinky and tap the 8th with the thumb of the right hand....it should be about 1/8th inch +/-........
Tremblin',
I love the short scale guitars....it may take a while to get used to the frets and if you don't prefer it thats a personal choice.....but MC brought one out last tour because of my request and he really liked it......it's been around a while and he rediscovered it......I'd wait on taking the middle pickup out until you're sure you'll never use it......
HighGrass,
I've been talking to MC alot and he's been out at TP's house working on stuff and is very pleased with the song's and vibe.....sorry I can't be more specific......
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18Thanks Chinner:
Thanks for the help and sorry to be redundant how about a frequently asked question section and something about past set ups from different tours.
god bless and merry Christmas, J12-07-2001 05:20 PM
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18hello Chinner:
I wish I had taking more pic's but I didn't
The first is pic how I received the guitar someone decapitated it.
The tuners are on back wards like Roger had his in the 60's
this is the long r tailpiece I was talking about.
Thanks J
http://www.luppinoguitar.com/byrdproject.asp
oh yea this is my bassman i thought it looks cool
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 56Bianocat,
Very nice.......I like the transition era Bassman (white knobs/blackface)......oxblood grillcloth cabinet.......bet it sounds great.......wanna sell it? LOL.....just kiddin'12-08-2001 10:50 AM
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18Hello Chinner:
Thanks for the set up info I measured my neck and it was a hair under 1/8 so I guess I have a good feel for these things after all. Now I have to relax until I get my Pick up's and Pick Guard Back.
Glad you like the Bassman I think it's 63 (not sure) I got a super deal on it because someone took off most of the cream tolex and changed it to black. I then took off the black and bought some fabric (space ships and UFO's pattern ) and sew'ed it up so it fit's as a very nice cover.
That was my MC copy set up from a few tours back. I'd rather have two vox's thoe. I'm considering buying my next one from http://www.plexipalace.com/ they seem to have a decent rep.
Well hope all is well, J12-10-2001 01:13 PM
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ItsLRed
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Chinner
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18Lred since you beat me to merry Christmas ;^} I'll say have a Happy New Year and may all your strings be in tune. Peace Chiner
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Travvis
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Wishing you happy holidays
Location: Around the corner and down the block
Posts: 62and wishing Mike a
Jerry Christmas and a Happy Bob Weir!!!
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18Hello Chinner:
Hope Santa Campbell (lol) was good to you for Christmas ;^)
I was wondering what model Ibanez does MC have I remember a Multi colored double cut away style guitar for some reason.
Anyway hope all is well, Joe12-31-2001 12:12 AM
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 56Thanks for all the holiday wishes......Sorry for not responding as often as before, but I've been busy with other projects. Feel free to keep asking questions as before and perhaps some other member of the TPAHB crew will respond or you could email me directly. In response to the question of Ibanez, the only one I'm aware of is the Flying V reissue (76 or 78 Korina I believe)......hope that helps....
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ok heres my ?
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JerryTalton
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Actually...
Location: Virginia
Posts: 23Not that ANYONE cares (I just like giving Chinner a hard time ), the Ibanez "Lawsuit" Flying V Senior models (which were "reissues" of the original '58 Gibson Korina Flying V and which is what Mike has, I think) were all made of Ash (since it looks sort of like Korina but costs a hell of a lot less) and then finished in a darker varnish.
Chinner, hope you had a wonderful Christmas and a rockin' New Year!
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I could be wrong but
Location: Around the corner and down the block
Posts: 62I think the multi colored Ibanez that BiancoCat3 is talking about is the guitar Mike plays the solo on at the end of "Don't Come Around Here No More" from the "Pack Up The Plantation" video.(???)
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18Yes! That's the one. I haven't seen it since. I probably remember it because it looked so weard.
Peace J
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grantini
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73 Tele Thinline
Location: Wilmington, E
Posts: 6Hi Chinner....my old but irreplacable 73 Thinline seems to have an eroding nut. Is there anything in particular that I should ask or tell the Guitar Tech when I get it replaced? I want to change as little as possible about this guitar, in fact this will be the first change made to it so I'm scared!
Is there anyone you would recommend that does that kind of work? I live near Philly and can get to Baltimore or NYC easily...
Thanks!
Rob01-08-2002 01:19 AM
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Posts: 56Grantini,
Well I guess no "other member" of the crew is going to respond. If only one or two nut slots are the culprit, here's a temporary fix. Remove all the strings and put masking tape in front and behind the nut (be sure the seal under the tape is tight). File a bone nut blank to aquire some nut dust (save the jokes please...lol). Put some of the nut dust into the offending slots and then place a drop or two of super glue into the slots and allow to dry. After drying file down the slots to a more pleasing depth. If you need more complicated repair work here are some NYC contacts.....Sadowsky guitars 212-586-3960 or Mel Terrpos @SIR (Studio Instrument Rentals) 212-245-3665....hope that helps01-23-2002 06:25 AM
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grantini
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65 Bassman
Location: Wilmington, E
Posts: 6Chinner,
Thanks for the help with the Tele...I might try that trick out on another guitar first, just to make sure I do it right, but that seems like a great solution!
Next problem, my 65 Bassman has been cutting out, in fact basically just shutting down when it is played hard. I have been running a distortion pedal through it, not sure if that matters. Anyway, it starts to cut out after about an hour then just goes away. The power light remains on. It was recently recapped and retubed. Also added a grounded power cord a couple years ago.
It appears that it is overheating....is that possible? Those big ol' 6L6's do generate some heat... What are your thoughts. Will I need to use nut dust again?
Thanks!
Rob Grant
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18Nut Dust Sounds like a personal problem Is that anything like moth ball's lol sorry could not pass that one up, hope all is well--- Joe
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BiancoCat3
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Posts: 18Hello Chinner:
Would this be a viable option for the allying pot in MC's BroadCaster? At least you be able to keep all the same numbers and most of the originality?http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/potsecrets/potscret.htm
peace Joe
P.S Still working on my Double neck copy:^}01-27-2002 02:24 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 56grantini,
It's kinda hard to diagnose something online, but I've run into this before. One tube would heat up and melt some solder inside the tube and arc against an internal element shuttting down the amp. Then after it would cool back down it would start up again and function normally until it heated up again. This sounds like whats going on with your's. Change one tube at a time (they can be used as long as you know they work) until you find the culprit. P.S. here's some NYC repair guy's for you.......Amp's: The Magic Shop...Matt Wells 212-219-8289...Guitars: Mel Terrpos aka the guitar doctor@SIR uptown 212-245-3665 or Sadowsky guitars 212-586-3960......hope that helps...01-29-2002 04:41 PM
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grantini
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65 Bassman
Location: Wilmington, E
Posts: 6Chinner, thanks for the help! Do you think it is probably the power tube or could it be any of thme?
Thanks again,
Rob02-04-2002 08:58 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 56That'd be my guess as they generate the most heat......
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awood29
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Posts: 4Hey Chinner,
Just wanted to know if you, Mike, or Tom have tried one of the new Vox Valvetronix amps and if so, any feedback? I know Mike uses some of the Line 6 stuff, thought he may be a fan of these as well...thanks!!!02-05-2002 08:18 PM
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grantini
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65 Bassman
Location: Wilmington, E
Posts: 6Chinner,
I know TP uses a blackface Bassman and I seem to recall MC using one as well... Which power tubes do you prefer to use in them? I have just figured out how to score old US tubes on ebay and am already building my own little inventory. I just put Sylvanias in the Prosonic and already had them in the Bassman, but want to experiment with the different brands and models and tones.
Your thoughts?
Thanks!
Rob Grant02-09-2002 06:06 PM
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 56awood,
I guess I should have gone to the NAMM show after all, because I have no idea what the Valvetronix is.......LOL
grantini,
As a point of correction the bassmans are blonde ......We used to use tubes by a company called Gold Aero as I recall, but I don't think they're around anymore. We've also used Groove Tubes in the past. This last tour I belive our friend Matt Wells matched some of the Sylvanias as well as Sovtek and Svetlana's, there may have been an RCA or two in there as well. In the past I've also tried some "new old stock" tubes from France (can't remember the brand name) and Mullard as well. One thing though I'm not a fan of the Phillips pre-amp tubes (microphonic sometimes), output's are ok though. Hope that helps....02-10-2002 04:53 AM
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Hey Chinner
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Posts: 97I have 20 more days of school and I will be certified in the electrical trade and...since our company has laid off 75% of its work force includeing me I have decided to inroll in Truck Driveing school after the 20 days are finished. Gonna drive a Big Rig LOL...
Now I figure I would have two things under my belt that would be an advantage as far as things I could do So would ya ask Tom if theres any chance that I can come to work! Peace LRED02-11-2002 04:00 AM
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grantini
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bassman tubes
Location: Wilmington, E
Posts: 6Chinner,
I thought the circuitry on the blonde bassman was the same as the 65...Im BUMMED! LOL.... I just retubed my prosonic with NOS Sylvanias and did my 65 Bman a few years ago with the same. I have been scooping up available inventory on ebay of the same and am doing pretty well. Finding matched pairs of Sylvanias, nos for any where from $30 to $60.... Have bought three pairs so I guess I have enough to last awhile! Thanks for the insight!
Rob Grant
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Cathee
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Posts: 503Chinner, would you consider the band technically out of the studio technically speaking
02-13-2002 02:41 AM
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grantini
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6L6 Tubes
Location: Wilmington, E
Posts: 7Chinner, can you better define "microphonic"?
Thanks!
Rob02-14-2002 06:51 PM
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ItsLRed
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Posts: 116Happy Valentines Day Chinner Peace LRED
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ChinnerSW
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Posts: 57grantini,
A tube is microphonic if you can tap on the back chassis or pre-amp tube cover and the "pinging" sound gets amplified.........this is caused by the internal elements vibrating......a tube that is solidly built will minimize this......02-15-2002 06:46 AM
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